Friday, May 04, 2007

Jesus

Well when in doubt look to Jesus. After all He is everything. This passage in in Mark 4.

9And He was saying, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
10As soon as He was alone, His followers, along with the twelve, began asking Him about the parables.
11And He was saying to them, "To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but those who are outside get everything in parables,
12so that WHILE SEEING, THEY MAY SEE AND NOT PERCEIVE, AND WHILE HEARING, THEY MAY HEAR AND NOT UNDERSTAND, OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT RETURN AND BE FORGIVEN."


There is no taking this out of context. This whole chapter is astounding from a theological perspective.

Matthew 24
22"Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

24"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

More Scripture

Proverbs 21
The king's heart is like channels of water in the hand of the LORD;He turns it wherever He wishes

Malachi 1
3but I have hated Esau, and I have made his mountains a desolation and appointed his inheritance for the jackals of the wilderness."

Romans 8 (radical depravity)
7because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
8and those who are in the flesh cannot please God

Daniel 4 (irresistable grace)

35"All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, But He does according to His will in the host of heaven And among the inhabitants of earth; And no one can ward off His hand Or say to Him, 'What have You done?'

John 6

64"But there are some of you who do not believe " For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him.
65And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."

2 Timothy 2
24The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged,
25with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,

Romans 3 (definite atonement)
25whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;
26for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

John 10
26"But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep." Notice: being a sheep enables you to become a believer, not vice versa

john 17

9"I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours;

Ephesians 1(unconditional election)

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
4just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him In love
5He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,
6to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.

For more on this look at previous posts and read romans 9

I will address passages like John 3:16 and many others later. I am at work and i have to go.

8 comments:

Josh said...

Why did Jesus carefully tell the explanation only to certain people? The answer is given by Jesus: "otherwise they might return and be forgiven." Wait a minute.. don't you believe that man by himself cannot seek or respond to any of the things of God? Seems like if those people heard, they would have had an opportunity to repent. It appears you don't have a grasp on what this passage means.

Josh said...

looking forward to the debate. :D we can discuss everything in length.

jeff hill said...
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jeff hill said...

Alright. Jesus told the whole group a parable and then gave only some a knowledge of what that means. You are right, if Jesus had given them an understanding of the parable then they would have known the truth and repented. There is no choice involved in that, Christ would have done everything including revealing the truth to them.

I am looking forward to further discussions as well.

By the way I found Biblical proof that God will give you a choice and you really not have one.

I love you man.

J.C. said...

the debate is gonna be awesome i think we should sell tickets. love you guys and jeff sorry about sunday night man i feel like im going to explode my stomach is a bomb right now.

jeff hill said...

It is all good Thompson.

Josh said...

by the way, if they could choose God, then they would be the "elect", and Jesus would have talked to them also.

jeff hill said...

I do not understand your comment